Todd Palin and Todd Akin probably have more in common than their first names. “Legitimate Rape” according to Todd Akin the Republican candidate for Senate in Missouri, often doesn’t result in pregnancy because women have a way to “shut things down.” Here is his actual statement:
This is the guy who is running against Claire McCaskill, the Democratic incumbent Senator from Missouri. Akin is the person who beat Sarah Steelman, endorsed by Sarah Palin, in the Missouri Senate race, because she was “hot.”
A “legitimate rape” is an oxymoron. By definition “legitimate” presumes something is proper or authorized by law. “Rape” by definition is an unlawful act. It is the forceful use of force or threat to have sexual intercourse with another person. I guess Mr. Akin meant that “Date Rape” wasn’t really “legitimate rape.” Do you think Mr. Akin would consider the four women in Utah who have reported being raped by Mr Peterson when they thought they were going on a date, to be “illegitimate rape?” Mr. Peterson is a member of the Latter Day Saints Church in Utah, and is a “prominent Republican activist.”
In fact one of his victims was at a Republican fundraiser hosted by a singles group of the local LDS Church.
Whatever your opinion regarding abortion, surely you oppose rape. Surely we would not elect anyone to the U.S. Senate who thinks that only actual injury or abuse would justify the criminal charge of “rape.
Estimates are that 9000 abortions in America, every year, are the result of pregnancies due to rape. Those women would have liked to “shut things down” so that they could have avoided having the abortion, but didn’t have Todd Akin around to show them how. The sad truth is that one out of every six women in America have been the victim of an attempted or actual rape. Over 17 million women in America have been the victims of an attempted or completed rape. Fifteen percent of rape victims in America are under 12 years old.I wonder if those girls appreciate the nuances of a “legitimate” and “illegitimate” rape. Fortunately for them they probably don’t have to be knowledgeable about how to “shut things down” since they are too young to get pregnant.
Claire McCaskill has been a Senator committed to protecting the interest of the members of the military, and opposes earmarks of any type. She has served in the Senate for one term. Some people suggest the comments of Todd Akin will cost him some female votes. I am hopeful that his comments will cost him votes of both men and women, and ultimately the election. If you are interested in making a small donation to Senator McCaskill’s campaign, please join me this morning and go to this site. It takes a credit card and 30 seconds. Let Todd Akin know what you think about his comments.
Todd Akin obviously considers some types of rape to be “harmless crimes.” Perhaps the more appropriate oxymoron would be to call Todd Akin a “Republican woman’s advocate.”
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August 20, 2012 at 11:08 am
The Lawman
Agenda…Agenda…Agenda…just like Palin in Alaska politics…let us hear her explain to us why she blocked a child rape case involving a girl that was raped at the age of 4 and for 10 years? Could it be the rapist was a buddy of Todd’s? Could it be that Sarah’s aunt in Omak Washington? It looks to me like this whole thing started in Washington with the assistance of a group of folks who sold the rapist cocaine, then met with Todd to go over the plan of attacks on the mother…oh and the kids…fringe benefits…
August 20, 2012 at 12:01 pm
malialitman
The Lawman,
That’s horrible! Can you send me a link to this story?
August 20, 2012 at 3:09 pm
jk
Please give more details. My understanding that there is no statute of limitations for child sexual abuse in the state of Alaska. The rapist may have hurt or be currently hurting other children. This needs to see the light of day.
August 20, 2012 at 3:22 pm
malialitman
jk,
I don’t know about that. I’ll try to find out.
August 20, 2012 at 6:38 pm
jk
Lawman seems to have the information. I think he needs to stop dropping hints and give some real info. Thanks for this post, Malia.
August 20, 2012 at 8:01 pm
malialitman
jk,
I’ll follow up on anything he tells us.
August 21, 2012 at 12:18 am
The FBI
yes and when you find out from Senator Lisa Murkowski that the same person that prompted her father to REVERSE THE STATUTES OF LIMITATIONS and the person to SUE the STATE OF ALASKA for gross negligence is one of the same person…send a dozen roses to the FBI!
They know I am retired but not dead…odd thing is when you are retired you get so much more intelligence than on job…one for the AGENCY!!!
And I can still give a holler and send an update ANYTIME…cool hu?
August 21, 2012 at 11:54 am
malialitman
The FBI,
Thanks for your input. Obviously you have sources that I do not!
August 21, 2012 at 11:52 pm
jk
Great, “the FBI.” Thanks for any info you can give us.
August 20, 2012 at 11:15 am
Kallie
Ewwwww, he even looks creepy. What a moron to boot! Go Clara!
August 20, 2012 at 12:00 pm
malialitman
Kallie,
He does look creepy to me too!
August 20, 2012 at 11:19 am
MissSunshine
Unbelievable ignorance and callousness. Some people just have not been able to advance past the 13th century.
Does the Republican party realize that this is an election year? Have they always been this awful? Maybe they have, and only now, that cheap, unobtrusive recording devices, are exposing these cavemen in their OWN WORDS.
P.S. I am having a flashback to Sarah Palin’s pick for Attorney General, WAR somebody. Yes, he was stunned to discover he couldn’t accuse a reporter of lying about some idiot statement he made because – Microphone! Recorder! Audio File!
It’s like these men do not yet grasp technological and scientific advances.
August 20, 2012 at 12:00 pm
malialitman
Miss sunshine,
And they don’t realize that half of the electorate are women, and women vote in higher percentages than men!
August 20, 2012 at 12:03 pm
curiouser
The idea that a woman can’t get pregnant during rape is fairly common in evangelical/fundamentalist communities. I heard it decades ago, probably on christian radio. It’s primarily meant to scare women from having sex outside of marriage and also to excuse nonviolent rapes. My initial, naive reaction was that there was less to fear from rape because, at least, I wouldn’t get pregnant.
I’m disgusted and outraged over Akin’s ignorance but I’m also very concerned that his extremism will make other anti-choicers appear less dangerous. Even those who would allow an exception for rape and incest deserve an equal dose of outrage–they are equally extreme and all are a danger to women’s freedom.
August 20, 2012 at 3:20 pm
malialitman
curiouser,
Absolutely! Just when I wonder if this blog has a real purpose, now that Palin is fading, I hear something like this, and have a renewed focus for continuing this blog!
August 20, 2012 at 6:40 pm
jk
It’s a way to shame women. If you get pregnant, it must not have been rape. His statement and it’s implications are monstrous.
August 20, 2012 at 12:12 pm
phil
Sarah Palin’s nominee for State Attorney General while she was still governor was quoted saying “If you can’t rape your wife, who can you rape?”
I guess for some people rape is acceptable.
August 20, 2012 at 3:18 pm
malialitman
phil,
I didn’t know that! Just horrible!
August 20, 2012 at 4:00 pm
curiouser
Here’s a link:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2009/04/13/palins-new-disaster.html
August 20, 2012 at 4:12 pm
malialitman
curiouser,
Thanks for the link! I just added the link to the post to make sure everyone saw it!
August 20, 2012 at 6:43 pm
jk
Wayne Anthony Ross, nickname WAR. I remember reading about the hearings on Jeanne Devon’s blog. Boy, Sarah was pissed her good buddy didn’t sail through the process. Sarah didn’t like being defied and denied. The fact that she nominated that ass is another example of her failure to support the concerns of women.
August 20, 2012 at 8:00 pm
malialitman
jk,
the only amazing thing to me is that ANYONE perceives her to be an advocate for women.
August 20, 2012 at 12:26 pm
MeeMaw
Yes, this guy looks very creepy.
It is important that we as women reframe this conversation: it is not the victims fault. Women do not “get pregnant” they are impregnanted. Men need to take responsibility for their actions!
August 20, 2012 at 3:17 pm
malialitman
MeeMaw,
There are a lot of men too that find this offensive, but we as women have a responsibility to stand up and shout “NO MORE” or we can’t complain that others aren’t doing the same!
August 20, 2012 at 1:22 pm
B.W.
Todd Aiken is proof of what you get as a public servant when you let your schools slide into mediocrity. Some moderate Repugs are calling for him to step down from running, which I’m sure the RNC won’t let him do. If Aiken doesn’t, one can only hope that smart people in Missouri decide they can do better than someone so ignorant of medicine, biology and women’s rights. I hope he gts TROUNCED.
Send money to McCaskill. Bring moderation back into politics …or we are doomed to be led by Dumb and Dumber.
August 20, 2012 at 3:15 pm
malialitman
BW,
I did, and we should.
August 21, 2012 at 1:12 am
Karen J (@KaJo503)
Actually, regarding the RNC, apparently Reince Priebus has “pil;ed on”, according to the Washington Post.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/08/20/priebus-piles-on/
These idiots are in full moron panic mode, and they brought it down on themselves with the past few years of anti-women legislation.
August 21, 2012 at 11:49 am
malialitman
Karen,
I think this is the definition of “just desserts.”
August 20, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Barbara
In Rwanda 20,000 women were impregnated by rape.
I cannot even say on this blog what I’d like to do to this man.
Please, please donate to Claire McCaskill’s campaign, even five or ten dollars. We cannot allow this man in the Senate. He is currently polling eight points ahead of Claire McCaskill!
I don’t know if any of you read the excellent book “What’s the Matter with Kansas?” but evidently the same thing is wrong with their neighbor’s in Missouri.
August 20, 2012 at 3:14 pm
malialitman
Barbara,
I donated this morning before even writing the post and I hope people around the country will do the same. We must stand up to people like this! When you hear about a “war on women” that in the past, didn’t include these type of comments about “legitimate rape.” Be sure to click on the link re the Republican in Utah who is charged with Rape of four women, just in the last few days. You can’t make this stuff up!
August 20, 2012 at 1:31 pm
B.W.
Malia ~
I posted a comment on his election site here: http://www.akin.org/node/32/done?sid=26050
It probably means I will get info from that despicable campaign, but it was worth calling out his ignorance ANY misogynist beliefs. Check out Aiken’s home page, which is all about God making his candidacy possible. Too bad God doesn’t get involved at the individual level becaus we could use a lightning bolt right about now.
August 20, 2012 at 3:11 pm
malialitman
BW,
If this guy was talking to God, God would be yelling at him, calling him a fool for saying this, and telling him that God would never want to be associated with somebody so stupid!
August 20, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Barbara
Well, than God we have brave candidate Mitt Romney to defend women against the Todd Akin’s of the world. After taking 24 hours to mull it over he announced today about Akin’s revolting statement:
“I have an entirely different view,” Romney said. “What he said is entirely without merit and he should correct it.”
WOW!! How ballsy! How brave! An entirely different view, hey Mittens? Then how come Paul Ryan, your mini-me, sponsored a Personhood Bill that would have made all abortion criminal, even that resulting from rape or incest?
Not only that, but according to Paul Ryan three out of five of Mitt Romney’s sons and their wives are criminals also. Why? Because they all used in-vitro ferilization which is also forbidden by the Personhood Bill. Plus one of them used a surrogate to bear 3 of his children. Not because his wife had fertility problems, she bore the couple’s first two children, but that childbearing shit takes a toll on a girlish figure, don’t you know, (unless you’re magic Sarah Palin!), and with high unemployment it’s a piece of cake to hire one of “those people” to carry your lil’ Saint to term.
August 20, 2012 at 3:10 pm
malialitman
Barbara,
Romney himself has said he was in favor of a person hood bill! See this link: http://video.msnbc.msn.com/the-rachel-maddow-show/44983707#44983707
August 20, 2012 at 2:04 pm
B.W.
Forgive me for making the suggestion above. I didn’t expect to get a bounceback from Aikens’ election site, but I’m guessing that he’s getting a lot of ‘hate mail’ from folks who object to his statement and to his “clarification.”
Below is the message I got. Hilarious that they shut down email to his election site! I hope McCaskill is getting a reciprocal # of donations on her site.
“Hi. This is the qmail-send program at http://www.akin.org.
I’m afraid I wasn’t able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I’ve given up. Sorry it didn’t work out.
:
This address no longer accepts mail.”
August 20, 2012 at 3:04 pm
malialitman
BW,
What a stupid thing to do and say! Even if he believes this, he should have been smart enough not to say it. It’s about as bad as the question by Hank Johnson asking about Guam capsizing.
August 20, 2012 at 2:28 pm
eclecticsandra
We have known that the abortion issue was selected by the conservative Christians to rally their troops. This is to focus the election the way they want it. It isn’t a matter of intelligence or understanding, it’s keeping the division of voters alive.
August 20, 2012 at 3:02 pm
malialitman
eclecticsandra,
I guess the rape victims are really at fault for their rapes, and thus they are also for not wishing away the pregnancy!!!
August 20, 2012 at 2:33 pm
jon mcnally
Not just another ‘rogue’ republican…
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/20/1122030/-Akin-wasn-t-out-of-line-he-was-toeing-the-Republican-Party-line
August 20, 2012 at 3:01 pm
malialitman
jon,
The word “rogue” came to my mind as well this am as I learned of this comment. It’s just outrageous that any politician could make such a statement and have any hope of a political future!
August 20, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Akin is disgusting
“Akin Questioned Spousal Rape Law Because It Might Be Misused “In A Real Messy Divorce As a Tool and Legal Weapon to Beat Up on the Husband.” Reported Talking Points Memo in August 2012, “Back in 1991, as a state legislator, Akin voted for an anti-marital-rape law, but only after questioning whether it might be misused “in a real messy divorce as a tool and a legal weapon to beat up on the husband,” according to a May 1 article that year in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch (via LexisNexis).” [Talking Points Memo, 8/10/12]”
http://clairemccaskill.com/press-releases/akin-legitimate-rape
August 20, 2012 at 3:24 pm
malialitman
Akin is disgusting,
Thanks for the link! It is clear that his comments were not a slip of the tongue, but instead he must feel that there is only one kind of rape, and he probably feels that the woman deserved that!
August 20, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Cecelia
His message from women, hopefully, WILL come from the polls if he has the gall to run for reelection, or isn’t run out of office immediately!
August 20, 2012 at 5:53 pm
malialitman
Cecelia,
He isn’t a senator yet, so I think he’ll lose the election to mcCaskil now that this has surfaced.
August 21, 2012 at 9:46 am
grammy11
Is he still a member of the House of Representatives, a congressman and representative of the people? If his term hasn’t ended, he should be thrown out.
August 21, 2012 at 11:35 am
malialitman
grammy11,
I agree he should! I think he’s still in the House but running for Senate.
August 20, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Pjevs
With these remarks from Akin,he should not be allowed to run for election.I do not for one second believe that he misspoke.If he is elected,then shame on american voters.
August 20, 2012 at 8:57 pm
malialitman
Pjevs,
I don’t believe his misspoke either. Today he apologizes for what he said but doesn’t say that he was wrong. The GOP is trying to get him to pull out by 5:00 tomorrow, but so far he says he’s not a quitter.
August 21, 2012 at 12:30 am
BFC
Wow…someone turned me onto this site…I am from Bikers for Christ…yeah the bad boys that saw the light…or end…whatever…anyways…you know this whole thing of Christianity is gone to the dogs…rode and raised hell but never raped anyone…no meant no and that was it…but this is gone too far and they will not get away with treating women like this…we believe in God but we use it to get those “raising hell” to may be…raise a Bible instead…takes some convincing as it did me…but we don’t like the God factor bleeding into politics…and the way Sarah Palin used it in the race saying ” It’s God’s Will…then she tried to dress and ride a bike…roll the eyes…go home girl and grow up already…let the big boys and girls handle the mess…you can stop trying to muddy the waters now with your hatred!
After all…It’s God’s Will…not yours and you are not God sweet cheeks!
August 21, 2012 at 11:53 am
malialitman
BFC,
Welcome to the blog! We are glad to have you join us!
August 21, 2012 at 8:03 am
Larry Weissmann
Worth noting that Sarah Palin still has made no comments about this. And given how she treated rape victims while Wasilla mayor, can only assume she actually supports his comments – see
http://articles.cnn.com/2008-09-21/politics/palin.rape.exams_1_wasilla-sarah-palin-alaska-gov?_s=PM:POLITICS
August 21, 2012 at 11:37 am
malialitman
Larry,
I think she’s being quiet about this because she doesn’t want to bring focus on this race as she endorsed Sarah Steelman who lost to this moron, so it might be even more embarrassing if she commented.
August 21, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Larry Weissmann
True enough, but note the following which she posted on twitter on Aug 8 – Congratulations to Todd Akin on his win. And thank you, Sarah Steelman, for running an inspiring grassroots…
August 21, 2012 at 2:38 pm
malialitman
Larry,
I missed that! Thanks for bringing it to our attention! She is horrible!
August 22, 2012 at 1:30 am
The Lawman
Or ignoring an official order from Governor Frank Murkowski to investigate a child rapist…ABI CASE # 06-76332 and Houston Police # 11-0020…call Manrique at 907-746-9111 and ask her as a mother would she let someone rape her child and get away with it? And what if the shoe was on the other foot and the mother of the rape victims were an investigator and did nothing? Let me know how that works out for you ABI…heard the FBI prompted the mother to file federal charges and they will assist…cool…
August 22, 2012 at 10:58 am
malialitman
The Lawman,
Thank you SO MUCH, for this information! I WILL follow up !! Malia
August 21, 2012 at 11:48 am
Beaglemom
I think to satisfy GOP members of the House of Representatives, the woman has to have been killed for rape to be proved. Obviously she did not fight back or resist if she survived. There is a great problem when men (where were the GOP women when this was going on in 2011?) discuss and made the rules in subjects like rape and abortion*. They are the perpetrators; they should not be allowed to make the rules.
* I have long believed that men are responsible for the abortion issue. There would be far fewer abortions if 1) we had universal health care in this country, 2) if women had better access to child care and to decent paying jobs, 3) if men were more responsible about sex, 4) if men accepted their 50% responsibility for the child once it is born. But in the US, men, especially those of a GOP bent, want to make all of the rules and force the women to abide by them. Almost like Sharia law . . . .
August 21, 2012 at 12:00 pm
malialitman
Beaglemom,
yes, the assailant could have a knife to the woman’s throat, and if she submits and the guy doesn’t cut her, what proof does she have that it was not consensual?
August 21, 2012 at 12:27 pm
christianliberal
What would happen if right-wing women ruled the world? Imagine if Sarah Palin or religious fanatics took over. Imagine if they took a strict interpretation of the biblical law against the “spilling of seed,” and men were not allowed to touch themselves. Oh, then you’d hear a howl from men and a great upwelling of angst!
Well then, maybe you will have an inkling of the feeling women have when a bunch of angry old white men (i.e., the GOP) try to dictate to women what they can and cannot do with their own bodies. To wit: Senate challenger Todd Akin and his remarks on “legitimate rape.”
August 21, 2012 at 2:11 pm
malialitman
christianliberal,
Thanks for your comment and support of this blog!
August 21, 2012 at 7:48 pm
christianliberal