Tonight “trigmund freud” sent me an excerpt from Bristol’s book, “Not Afraid of Life: My Journey So Far.”
While I had previously read Bristol’s book, I had not previously focused on this passage. At page 93 of Bristol’s book, she writes:
“ 
Up until this moment, I had the impression that cbj delivered Trig. That impression was the result of two things:
1. The letter of cbj, produced the day before the election of 2008, wherein she talks about the pre-term delivery of Trig, but does not infact say that she herself delivered Trig.
2. At page 195 and 196 of Going Rogue, Sarah Palin describes the birth of Trig. She never specifically says what doctor actually delivered Trig. The assumption is that it was CBJ. Palin says: “Todd beamed. I heard him whisper to CBJ “Hmmm, he doesn’t look Downs.” “CBJ looked up at Todd and gave him a kind, knowing smile.” While Palin doesn’t say that CBJ delivered Trig, she is the only medical doctor mentioned.
Thus the impression the reader of Going Rogue would have is that CBJ delivered Trig. Yet, based on Bristol’s account, it is clear that somebody else delivered Trig, if Trig was in fact delivered by Sarah Palin on that day. The letter written to describe the health of Sarah Palin by CBJ was not a verification that Trig was Palin’s natural born son, but only that he was “pre-term.,” and that Sarah Palin was in sufficiently good health to serve as the Vice President.
Now we know why medical records were never produced in the 2008 presidential race by Sarah Palin, or birth records of Trig. The truth is that we have never had a medical doctor or nurse confirm that he or she witnessed Sarah Palin giving birth to Trig. There is another contradiction between Sarah’s report of the events surrounding the birth and that of Bristol. Bristol recalls that it was clear that “Trig didn’t look like the rest of us.” However Sarah recalls Todd saying that “he doesn’t look Downs.” It’s hard to get a story straight, when two people are telling the same story, but neither witnessed the event.
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February 27, 2012 at 10:51 pm
Sally
Wait, Bristol says, “Dad Willow and I were in the room as Trig was born.” What room? The birthing room? I highly doubt that Sarah would want her teen daughters witnessing the birth of a high risk child…this is another attempt to make us believe Sarah gave birth.
February 27, 2012 at 11:06 pm
malialitman
Sally,
Isn’t it interesting that the only people who were mentioned were family members and not medical providers,…especially since Palin knew right away that there was a real question about the true identity of the birth mother of Trig.
February 27, 2012 at 10:55 pm
tev
“Not my mistake.”
“My book is wrong.”
This is the advantage when the discrepancies appear in the book that a questionably literate possible GED holder has published in her name with the “help” of a ghostwriter.
Bristol Palin; author, editor and proofreader? I could be convinced…..
February 27, 2012 at 10:57 pm
tev
Not diminishing the find. Just saying that there are already enough nails to build a house.
February 27, 2012 at 11:03 pm
malialitman
tev,
I agree, but I always thought that the hardest thing to believe was that cbj would risk her professional career misstating a fact. However, now I understand she may not have misstated anything, but simply said that Trig was born early.
February 27, 2012 at 11:04 pm
rumsey10
Wow.
February 27, 2012 at 11:07 pm
malialitman
rumsey10
“wow” is right! After all this time, we are just realizing that cbj did not in fact deliver trig!
February 28, 2012 at 9:46 am
AFM
Well she simply can correct any mistakes by showing the birth certificate. We are all waiting for. But then again she has so many people in her pocket she can produce a birth certificate with the lies. But then again it would go a long long way and then we all can shut up. But there is no birth certificate. She may have adopted the child or Bristol could have delivered the baby.
February 28, 2012 at 3:20 pm
comeonpeople
isn’t there an audio interview recording though with Todd and Sarah talking about CBJ delivering Tri-G and that todd said CBJ had delivered “lots” of babies .. (3 babies that year lol). I’m prettty sure in that interview they said CBJ delivered Tri-G. It may be the same interview that someone asks Sarah about her water breaking per
Chuckles report.
February 27, 2012 at 11:19 pm
dirgeledig
Wait, what about Chuck who says he saw Trig being born, too? No mention of him being in that room? That delivery room was like a clown car with people spilling out of it, I guess.
February 27, 2012 at 11:23 pm
malialitman
dirgeledig,
I think Chuck would say anything they told him to say. Palin says in Going Rogue at pg 195 “I delivered Trig Paxso Van Palin, On that same page she mentions the “girls gently cooed and cuddled” the new baby but there is never a mention of her mom and dad at that point.
February 28, 2012 at 3:20 am
Game of Life (@TheGameOfLife)
Wasn’t levi in the room? Also no mention of bristol taking vagina pics either.
February 28, 2012 at 12:26 pm
mmboucher8 (@mmboucher8)
What Doctor would allow any family member to cuddle a preemie baby?????
February 28, 2012 at 9:48 am
AFM
I don’t know any delivery room that would allow that many people in the delivery room. Especially the baby’s grandfather. Grandma and daddy yes but not all that crew. Personnelly I didn’t all my own mother in the room. I wanted a quiet room and a calming person with me when I delivered. I just don’t believe all those people were in that delivery room.
February 27, 2012 at 11:33 pm
dirgeledig
They were waiting out in the hall with the other, big baby for the photo op.
February 27, 2012 at 11:36 pm
malialitman
dirgeledig,
Clearly there were several photo ops, and they just weren’t paying attention to ears! Their mistake!
February 27, 2012 at 11:44 pm
B
“Dad, Willow and I were in the room. . ..” It doesn’t say they were the only ones in the room. CBJ or other medical professional could have been there.
“About 30 min. later Dr. CBJ came into the room.” “When she came back into the room, Mom said . . .” I read these together as Bristol saying that 30 min. later CBJ came back into the room. She had been there for the delivery, left the room, and came back.
I believe this what Bristol is saying. However, I don’t believe her. And If CBJ did deliver Trig, it was long before the day Bristol is describing.
February 27, 2012 at 11:46 pm
malialitman
B,
Of course they may try to explain this away but I think they have clearly contradicted each other.
February 28, 2012 at 12:42 am
tev
>>>I think they have clearly contradicted each other<<<
That is correct.
What might be probative would be the records from whatever process was used for the book. I'd like to know who brought up this topic, and in the context as it might have been originally discussed , so it can be compared with this passage in the book.
I doubt that Bristol prepared the first draft by herself. I think she either answered a list of prepared questions or was interviewed by the ghostwriter using prepared questions. Common practice would suggest that interview sessions would be recorded for later transcription.
Has anything ever been said about anyone reviewing the contents of this book prior to publication? Sarah?
Balls in their court again. The state champion point guard can't buy a basket lately.
February 28, 2012 at 8:36 am
B
The ghostwriting and editing was not as meticulous as your writing. I agree there is a contradiction, but I think they could have been careless with the prose rather than careless with their version of the facts.
February 28, 2012 at 1:15 am
Mauri Helms
what I find odd is that Bristol doesn’t mention having a camera or taking pictures (as Sarah’s recent emails claim she did); neither did she mention any kind of hustle and bustle of nurses/assistants/doctors.
I find the lack of a room crowded with doctors pretty suspicious; she was the Governor, she was rich. Me? I’m “just” an enlisted military man’s wife– with a completely normal pregnancy (boring, even), and a textbook birth. However, the thing my mother remembers most about the birth of my son was that as soon as I whimpered to my husband to push the call button because I needed to push, the room was suddenly FILLED with doctors. At least 10 or so, she said (I was a little preoccupied at the time).
So is a lowly ol’ military dependent suddenly getting better care with her textbook pregnancy and birth than a state governor with a high-risk pregnancy, preemie birth, and Downs child with jaundice and a hole in his heart?
hmmmm.
February 28, 2012 at 9:49 am
malialitman
Mauri Helms,
And I would also add that there was no mention of a camera during the birth of Tripp, and you’d think that if they were going to take pictures of Sarah, somebody would also take pictures of Bristol giving birth?
February 27, 2012 at 11:54 pm
Ivyfree
What happened with keen-eyed Willow looking at the baby and instantly diagnosing Down syndrome? Now we hear that CBJ’s telling the family? Wasn’t Sarah supposedly already clued in because of the amniocentesis? Wouldn’t she have told her teenage children? Because there’s really only two reasons to have an amniocentesis: one is to enable you to abort the pregnancy if you need to. The other is to prepare yourself for possible problems. Sarah is allegedly prolife although she considered abortion, but once she decided she’d keep the baby- she did nothing to prepare herself or her family for the challenges they’d meet.
Yeah, that sounds like someone who’d be a good VP. Somebody who completely ignores significant information that calls for action.
February 28, 2012 at 12:19 am
leu2500
With OB malpractice insurance being what it is, you still have the problem of what dr would deliver a premie with known issues in a local hospital not qualified/authorized for high risk births when the mother had to be induced, instead of transporting said mother to Anchorage where there was a NICU.
Also, I keep reading that contractions are horrendous when you are induced. So Palin exposed her minor daughters to not only all the “ick” of delivery, but the extra pain of an induction. Maybe it was her idea of how to scare them off from premarital sex, but I would think that Palin had more vanity than this.
February 28, 2012 at 9:56 am
malialitman
leu2500,
It is a joke to me that they had to “induce” labor after her water broke over 24 hours before, she was in labor while giving the speech in Texas, and traveled on two flights from Tx, then drove an hour from Anchorage to Wasilla, and this was her 5th pregnancy.
February 28, 2012 at 3:23 pm
comeonpeople
7th pregnancy
February 28, 2012 at 12:20 am
Willow
Who Delivered Trig?
Everybody knows Who’s on first,
What’s on second,
I Don’t Know’s on third
February 28, 2012 at 12:35 am
Karen J (@KaJo503)
I have NO idea what Dr. CBJ was talking about when she said, “Now this deeper line is a characteristic of Down syndrome.”
(Oh, you mean like this one, Dr. CBJ? http://medgen.genetics.utah.edu/photographs/diseases/high/peri005.jpg )
But when you look at a picture of the 4/5/6/7 month old Trig at the RNC in September 2008, there is no crease like the picture at the link. http://bit.ly/xRPYoN
No “deeper line”. Trig’s hand looks perfectly normal. MY hand has creases like that.
So wotthehell was she talking about? Some other Trig?
February 28, 2012 at 10:34 am
Frances
Google “Down’s Syndrome hand crease” and look at the results for images.
Interesting.
February 28, 2012 at 12:38 am
ozmud
‘He was perfect … except he didn’t look like the rest of us’. What the heck does that even mean? And why were two school-aged children (meaning rife with germs) allowed in the delivery room of a child who may well have had immunity problems accompanying the already-diagnosed hole in his heart?
Too many risks taken to be a true story.
February 28, 2012 at 9:54 am
malialitman
ozmud,
If you have ever witnessed a child being born, you wouldn’t want children in the room, watching their mother in pain and maybe yelling, and seeing all that blood. Even husbands pass out sometimes, so why would you want your kids in the room, until later.
February 28, 2012 at 3:25 pm
comeonpeople
Those ears were not perfect by any means. Ruffles ears I mean, from the Triggy bear, best little brother ever photos of Mercede holding Tri-G in Sarah’s kitchen. They talk about palms and necks but what about the deformed ears?? What kid was that?
February 28, 2012 at 12:56 am
Jude
So Bristol wrote that Trig was born at Mat-Su Regional, as did Sarah. But last year, while giving speeches in Texas and Alabama, Sarah said that Trig was born in Anchorage. The Mat-Su birth story never made sense, as many people have noted that it’s a small hospital which doesn’t even allow twin births. It also lacks a neonatal intensive care unit. (Of course the whole Wild Ride story makes no sense!) So which is the false narrative? All of the above?
February 28, 2012 at 9:51 am
malialitman
Jude,
I think All of the above! I’ve heard her speech from Waco Tx, when she says he was born in Anchorage, and that would make sense if he were Bristol’s child, born in Anchorage and then taken to Wasilla.
February 28, 2012 at 1:34 am
Diane
I always wondered if Trig was heather’s child and the palin’s adopted him.
They really went after her ex husband, the trooper.
It just seemed so over the top, like the real reason for all the drama was never told.
February 28, 2012 at 2:26 pm
B
I think you mean Molly. She was the one married to Trooper Wooten.
February 28, 2012 at 2:33 am
Palinoia
I think it is even more interesting that they Bristol tries to make it sound like A) Trig was born, then B) they immediately were holding him C) CBJ left for 30 minutes – yet the baby was still in the room being held by them the whole time?
I call BS. Even healthy term newborns are taken away for clean up, weighing, Apgar scores, etc. Nobody is holding them except medical professionals at that point, and usually the doc is still there doing assessments.
What a load of crap.
February 28, 2012 at 9:45 am
malialitman
Palinoia,
I think you’re on to the real message…which is that none of us know what really happened, but what they have told us is a load of crap.
February 28, 2012 at 2:34 am
serena1313
Hi Malia
Carefully phrased wording, as we know, is frequently used to intimate or convey something that is intentionally & deliberately misleading while at the same time it allows enough wiggle room for plausible deniability. Most of the time we do not know when someone is or is not being forthcoming … well, suffice to say, with exception of Sarah who is notorious for her deception & dishonesty.
First CBJ’s letter:
Although I do not recall the exact wording, I do remember at the time being struck by the way CBJ’s letter had been very carefully phrased which led me to believe it was plausible another doctor, other than CBJ, had delivered Trig.
Bristol:
Assuming Bristol is telling the truth, I did not realize that Willow & Todd had also been at the hospital the day Trig was born muchless all 3 being in “the room.” Why no mention of Levi? I remember pictures of Bristol & Levi which were suspect given the hospital bracelet Levi was wearing. Maybe Iam confused?
Anyhow, Bristol’s reference to, “the” room? what room: the delivery room, the waiting room? perhaps it had a TV monitor?
Furthermore, normally, individuals say, we ‘watched’ or we ‘witnessed’ or we ‘saw’, not we were in the room “as” … Trig was born?
Ok, I know Iam nit-picking, forgive me.
Nonetheless I just wondered if there was anything to it?
February 28, 2012 at 9:43 am
malialitman
serena1313,
There is a picture of Levi holding Trig where he is looking at Trig. He very much looks like a dad in the picture, but of course that was my reaction, and I realize I am biased.
February 28, 2012 at 10:56 am
Cracklin Charlie
To me, every picture of Levi with either of the boys shows him looking like a father. Every.Single.One.
February 28, 2012 at 2:59 am
GypsyGil
Wait! I recall something about “Willow” being the one who took notice that the “newborn” didn’t look quite right and not normal looking?
Sheesh, who said what, who was here or there or somewhere in between, it’s all absurd with anything Painful Palin does or says.
February 28, 2012 at 3:17 am
Game of Life (@TheGameOfLife)
I was lead to believe the palins knew trig had ds when she claimed she had an anmio, early on. I thought she had one of her family meetings” and told everyone about trig. she also said she was thinking about an abortion. This is where she got that phony “choosing life” bullshit line.
How about willow finding the test pg strips? When does that fit in?
February 28, 2012 at 9:41 am
malialitman
Game of Life,
Palin says in Going Rogue that she wrote the letter from God, before Trig was born, and intended to show it to the kids, but ran out of time. Thus they were not prepared for have a “special needs brother.
February 28, 2012 at 9:57 am
AFM
That was the supposedly strip she found when Bristol left it in her bathroom. I think it was when Bristol was preggie with Tripp. Forcing her to tell her parents.
February 28, 2012 at 6:24 am
avahome
Was there a Pediatrician on duty the night of delivery? In the world I come from your GYNOB handles the delivery and Pediatrician handles the infant once born…… And in the case of advance notice of DS wouldn’t you think college educated persons such as CBJ and of course Sarah would take every precaution? Liability and safety comes to mind….and this also stands for bringing a newborn to work re:workmens comp. insurance.
February 28, 2012 at 9:33 am
malialitman
avahome,
You are right…especially since they knew Trig was a Down’s syndrome child, they would have wanted him to be delivered at a hospital that had an NICu.
February 28, 2012 at 11:04 am
Cracklin Charlie
Plus, the mother who supposedly delivered the child just happened to be one of only 50 people in the United States who was THE GOVERNOR of the state in which they lived. Every precaution would, and should, have been taken.
This just did not happen.
February 28, 2012 at 7:15 am
Snarkinator
In a bizarre email, $arah mentioned some photos Bristol took of her “having” Trig but said she’d never release them without major photoshopping. I can only speak for myself, but when I delivered each of my 3 kids (1 in Arkansas and 2 in Texas, no fishpickers here!), we were not allowed to take photos or video until AFTER the baby was out. I am not sure exactly what kind of photoshopping she is talking about. I also don’t know why Bristol chose to take photos of her brother emerging from her mother’s vagina but seemingly did not take pics of Sarah cradling her newborn right after birth in the hospital bed. No photos with beloved family friend and doctor extraordinaire CBJ? I can’t believe they get away with this, they aren’t even good at lying.
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/317835
February 28, 2012 at 9:30 am
malialitman
Snarkinator,
I surely know that nobody was taking pictures of my privates when my kids were coming out! I know a lot of people video tape the birth, but they usually do it from the perspective of the mother…looking down.
February 28, 2012 at 11:07 am
Cracklin Charlie
She’s just trying to gross people out, so they’ll leave her alone about it.
Yeah, that’s the ticket…make people think you’re gross. She’s a freak!
February 28, 2012 at 12:20 pm
jk
That is exactly right!!!!!
It’s the same thing as Sarah asking if the reporter wants to touch her pregnant belly. It’s gross to ask a reporter that and the reporter backs off immediately because the reporter doesn’t want to be seen as being inappropriate.
Not only is it gross to think of Bristol taking a picture of Trig being born out of her mother. It’s gross for anyone being offered up that picture as proof to say, “sure, let me see it.”
Sarah Palin is a sick, twisted, yet crafty, person.
February 28, 2012 at 7:18 am
shughes2853
Ok, the smoking gun to me is when bristol states that her aunt heather got the call late at night that palin was going into labor early.
think about that. Palin’s wild ride story states she wasn’t in labor in Texas and took her time going home If her story says trig was born the following morning after the texas speech – then who called her aunt heather the night before and what time? Because palin’s story states it was not labor the night before….so this story is just as stupid as all the others….
February 28, 2012 at 9:27 am
malialitman
shughes2853,
And of course Bristol was living with her Aunt Heather at the time, so if she were pregnant at the time and they wanted to hide it, it could have been a call TO Sarah the night before FROM Bristol telling them she was in labor, and they needed to come home as soon as possible. CBJ could have delivered Bristol’s baby in Anchorage, and then they all met in Wasilla.
February 28, 2012 at 9:27 am
malialitman
shughes2853,
And of course Bristol was living with her Aunt Heather at the time, so if she were pregnant at the time and they wanted to hide it, it could have been a call TO Sarah the night before FROM Bristol telling them she was in labor, and they needed to come home as soon as possible. CBJ could have delivered Bristol’s baby in Anchorage, and then they all met in Wasilla.
February 28, 2012 at 3:34 pm
comeonpeople
Palin was leaking fluid in TX, a full day before she “gave birth” she says, so she had ample time to call everyone to start praying. No need for midnight calls to anyone. (Except if she told anyone she was leaking fluid they’d tell her to go to the hospital right away.)
Palin was not pregnant nor did she give birth on 4/18/08.
I mean, PERHAPS she was pregnant at some time with a Tri-G and she aborted it, but she did not birth it on 4/18/08/
February 28, 2012 at 8:28 am
aj weishar
This is a great example of how the grifters work. They leave out the facts and make comments so your mind fills in the missing parts. Thus it becomes reality in your mind, because you create it. Minds that are less analytical or just plain lazy will be victims of the scam.
February 28, 2012 at 3:36 pm
comeonpeople
Except her lies are just stupid. There is no way a family practice physician was her high risk OB. Three is no way MatSu would allow a high risk delivery. The parts we have to fill in do not fit logically or medically or to known standards.
February 28, 2012 at 4:25 pm
malialitman
comeonpeople,
You are right …there is no way! Especially because she was the Governor, they wouldn’t have taken any chances!
February 28, 2012 at 9:08 am
gsb
Sarah loves to be the center of attention,even while she is delivering a child. I wonder, does she think this to be “show-time?”
How about it Mothers? Did you want an audience?
February 28, 2012 at 11:12 am
Cracklin Charlie
NO!
I wanted to be able to concentrate on the task at hand, not entertain a bunch of looky-loos, and have to make sure my kids were not running around the hospital getting into trouble.
Absolutely ridiculous story. Sarah wasn’t even there.
February 28, 2012 at 12:22 pm
jk
My labor and delivery was so fast, I was much too focused on the task at hand. But, I now what happens to women’s bodies as they are pushing and delivering, and I really wouldn’t want an audience or anybody taking pictures!!!
February 28, 2012 at 9:48 am
omomma
Just lining up all the stories of those who claim to have been present takes an incredible amount of time and energy. This alone should be a huge clue to the fictional nature of the event.
February 28, 2012 at 9:50 am
jadez
“trig” was not born in that hospital by obvious deduction.
cbj no doubt facilitated the “delivery” of the baby there.
palin thinks she has provided enough proof that she gave birth while the reality is everything she has provider proves she hasnt.
at this point i dont see anyone caring enough or having a reason to expose it all.
i have never seen anyone post the actually laws in alaska regarding all this.
for ex.
is it illegal for a hospital worker to say. “that baby was NOT born here?, and questions along those lines.
but one last point, dont expect any “liberal’ media or someone you thought was liberal, to ever expose this.
keith and maher for ex. wouldn’t even talk to Joe M.
but for what it is worth, Joe M. being a lifelong friend of roger ailes no doubt knows for certain (as many insiders do) that palin constructed this hoax.
he would never have gone as far as he did by even mentioning it if he wasnt certain it couldnt come back and attack his integrity which is paramount to him.
its been clear since day one that palin has had help concealing this (you think the McCain people didn’t realize this and how bizarre palin really is from the get go?)
anyone still wishing to further investigate this hoax should be starting from there, who helped palin conceal this hoax to the public.
February 28, 2012 at 9:54 am
Dis Gusted
Chuckles saw him pop out too. So he was there for delivery according to the Palins.
Levi said he brought Bristol to the hospital and they arrived after the birth. I believe this is the case. They arrived after the baby had been transferred from Anchorage to Mat-Su. He was probably two – three months old.
Previous stories claimed Willow suspected the DS immediately upon seeing the infant.
Things are really different in AK. Nobody except ONE person was allowed in delivery with my children. ONE….. and it was recommended that they take the baby classes beforehand to help coach breathing, etc.
I don’t believe the newborn in the released pictures weighs only 6 pounds either. That’s another load of bull. This is probably 2 month old TriG and he weighs around 9 pounds. I’m comparing him to pictures of my own children. Most of them were in the 8lb – 9lb range. However, my twins were 5lbs and 6lbs each
I don’t believe any of this crap. It’s just not true. That’s why there are no pictures.
February 28, 2012 at 10:50 am
rf
As most of us know, CBJ is not an obstetrician and Matsu isn’t licensed to deliver such a birth, so this seems to discredit the whole scenario, but we are dealing with palins here. Historically they insist something is so, which in their minds makes it so. And because THEY believe it’s so they think we should believe it’s so as well.
I never believed CBJ delivered that baby from Sarah Palin or any one else. The Palins have repeatedly made an insinuation that CBJ delivered that baby from Sarah Palin, and only an insinuation. How convenient is that?
Obfuscation is a remarkably effective tool, and the Palin’s and their ghost writers seemed confident that most readers would fail to notice the smoke screens created by their carefully nuanced words. Fortunately not all of us are so easily mislead.
For example:
Something glares at me here, in this sentence: Bristol’s book says
“When she came back into the room, Mom said…”
I read that as when Sarah Palin came back into the room, not CBJ, as CBJ had already come back in to the room a few sentences prior;
and under the rules of grammar this assumption is correct, when SHE came back into the room, MOM said… Mom IS the SHE in that sentence. Mom is the subject of that sentence.
Which then sheds some new light on this scenario, we can now infer that SARAH PALIN CAME BACK into the room and told CBJ (who was already in the room) to show the girls the line on his hand.
Interesting, no?
Yes.
“about 30 minutes later CBJ came INTO the room, implying her first entrance… and then Sarah came BACK into the room…
My mind is dizzy.
Based on Bristol’s words, we are supposed to believe that Sarah Palin birthed a baby at app 6:30 am, CBJ comes in the room 30 minutes later and then Sarah comes BACK into the room… so if CBJ arrives 30 minutes after “the birth” and Sarah re-enters the room after CBJ, we must conclude that a woman who just delivered a baby left the baby in less than 30 minutes of its birth. WOW, just wow.
Thoughts anyone?
rf
February 28, 2012 at 11:11 am
LizBud
I wouldn’t base any conclusions on the assumption that either Bristol or her ghost writer would know how to make their pronoun references clear and correct. Still, it’s fascinating how they have (inadvertently?) managed to obfuscate with careless syntax.
February 28, 2012 at 11:15 am
Cracklin Charlie
Easy…Sarah is not Trig’s biological mother.
February 28, 2012 at 12:05 pm
rf
Indeed, that is the point.
February 28, 2012 at 11:02 am
GG from Cincy
I used to be a NICU nurse. At the hospitals I worked at, if a delivery was taking place and known to be a preemie or other high-risk circumstances, a NICU nurse and a neonatologist would go to the delivery in case the baby needed to be intubated. I have been to a few deliveries like that, and no family was allowed in the room. If there were premature twins, then two neonatologists and two nurses would attend…a team for each baby.
I also used to work on a team at Vanderbilt Hospital in Nashville, many years ago. We had an ambulance called Angel I, and we got called to hospitals where a baby was born and they had no NICU or people trained to take care of a premature baby on a ventilator. A nurse (experienced in NICU nursing) and a neonatology fellow would go to the small hospital and transport the baby back to Vanderbilt. I don’t believe any of that crap that the Palins have told about Trigg’s birth.
February 28, 2012 at 11:19 am
rf
correction, from
I read that as when Sarah Palin came back into the room, not CBJ, as CBJ had already come back in to the room a few sentences prior;
to CBJ had already come INTO the room a few sentences prior…
February 28, 2012 at 11:36 am
akshutterbug
She has done more than just “insinuate” that CBJ delivered Trig. She says it flat out in black and white:
2008 Subject:
Baby Flippin ridiculous. My doctor (CBJ, she delivered Trig and served on our Health Care Council and was named America’s Top Family Physician a few yrs ago) called Todd to give me a message requesting that I call her tomorrow – to discuss “a phone call she received from Lisa Demer at the ADN”
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/317835-pra-gsp02-0033130.html
February 28, 2012 at 12:28 pm
malialitman
akshutterbug,
Thanks for this link! You are right she definitely says cbj delivered Trig, and that is directly contrary to what Bristol Says. I’ll do a separate post. Thanks, Malia
February 28, 2012 at 12:04 pm
rf
Shutterbug: touche,
but I believe that was a “private” email just released, not intended for public consumption, I have’t seen a public statement or remember one that states emphatically that CBJ delivered Sarah of Trig. Could be one out there, but it doesn’t change the truth of the matter now does it?
February 28, 2012 at 12:32 pm
akshutterbug
rf:
I agree. I was shocked when I saw that email because she has never before stated (nor has CBJ) that CBJ actually delivered Trig. In fact, other than one sentence in her book, Sarah herself has never stated publicly that she gave birth to Trig. He was “delivered” to her, he was a gift, a present, he showed up, sent from heaven, was presented etc.. She has stated every way imaginable a child could be placed onto her lap, every way except for saying that SHE actually gave birth to him.
Now that she’s on record stating that CBJ delivered him, it’s going to be very hard for CBJ to continue to evade questions about this birth. I think it’s time the State Medical Board got involved with this fiasco.
February 28, 2012 at 1:16 pm
rf
Shutterbug, I agree, an investigation is in order.
Sarah’s back must have felt so against the wall that she finally told the ultimate lie about CBJ, without regard of the consequences CBJ might face.
The audacity and self righteousness of Sarah Palin is beyond the pale.
CBJ was a “family friend” who now lies under the Palin bus. Perhaps this betrayal will give CBJ second thoughts about revealing all she knows. At least we can hope. If someone screwed me over like that you can bet I’d sing loud and long.
Seems to me CBJ may not have a choice at this juncture if she wants to keep her name clear of false allegations. Crossing fingers.
February 28, 2012 at 1:43 pm
malialitman
rf,
Since CBJ was asked by Palin to send her letter on Nov. 3rd, I think Sarah may have released her and given permission for her to disclose matters regarding her medical condition, so I think it would be misleading if CBJ doesn’t disclose that she did or did not deliver Trig!
February 28, 2012 at 12:47 pm
KatieAnnieOakley
Malia, there was a lot of work by Palin staffers writing Trig’s Birth Announcement.
In two long email chains, it is decided by Todd that the Down diagnosis would NOT BE MENTIONED in the announcement.
In the continuing email chain, it is decided the verbiage will be that “Trig arrived…” and that the meaning will be “inferred” when people read the Announcement.
Most people reading the emails think the use of “inferred” references the Down diagnosis (IF they don’t know about Todd wanting to EXCLUDE a reference to the Downs in the birth announcement… THAT request is in the beginning of that email chain…).
It never specifically states that “Sarah gave birth to…” – you are to INFER she did. What it DID SAY was that “Trig ARRIVED…”
There is a LOT OF WORDPLAY at work with these false christians…
February 28, 2012 at 12:52 pm
malialitman
KatieAnnie Oakley,
Everything I read seems to be a play on the words, and it would be so easy for Sarah to put these rumors to rest, but of course she won’t.
February 28, 2012 at 2:24 pm
TLemmbert
Odd that Bristol said that the line is “deeper.” The difference has nothing to do with the depth of the line. The difference is that there is just one line compared to three on a normal person’s hand.
February 28, 2012 at 2:33 pm
rf
Well she can’t, because that would mean she’d have to admit to all of her lies and how she intentionally mislead everyone.
It’s not even clear at this late date that she actually has a birth certificate for Trig, as late as 5 weeks after his birth the Palin’s insurance company was requesting a copy of it and emailed Todd directions on how to obtain one.
Sarah is too vain and self absorbed to admit that she is such a blatant liar.
February 28, 2012 at 2:48 pm
rf
Malia:
Sarah may have given permission to CBJ to release a very carefully worded document with Sarah’s final stamp of approval on it, but I think it a stretch that she would give any more consent than that, if I am reading you right.
I do agree that, given the content of the email in which Sarah declares that CBJ birthed Trig, it would now be rather curious and misleading of CBJ to not address the issue of Trigs birth in this new light.
Not getting my hopes up, well not too far.
February 28, 2012 at 4:38 pm
malialitman
rf,
I’m not getting my hopes up either, but I don’t think there is any limitation about a doctor telling what they did NOT do for a patient.
February 28, 2012 at 3:12 pm
trigmundfreud
I see many commenting on such disparate elements as what Chuck Heath said to the press or who was the first to comment on Trig’s condition. While intriguing, such matters are irrelevant for the purposes of this discussion; for the time being, we must concern ourselves solely with what the text itself evidences. And the text confirms, categorically and without equivocation, that Catherin Baldwin-Johnson was not present during the delivery of Trig Paxson Van Palin.
February 28, 2012 at 3:35 pm
rf
trigmund: I understand your point to a degree, but curtailing or discouraging “disparate elements”and expanded discussion might discourage the revelation of a new and pertinent finding that puts another nail in the coffin.
I believe the intent is to round out the picture, making more and more of the puzzle pieces fit. One simple fact doesn’t seem to be enough to launch this discussion into a venue that could finally expose Palin and her lies. If only.
February 28, 2012 at 7:01 pm
trigmundfreud
Of course you’re correct, rf. My point is simply thus: we’ve know, since 2008, that CBJ’s credentials would have rendered her unqualified to have provided perinatal care to Palin or to have served in an obstetrical capacity at Trig’s birth. At the risk of singling out a fellow commenter, the validity of Bristol’s claim that she and Willow were able to hold their ‘brother’ within minutes of his arrival, while intriguing, it hardly relevant to Malia’s thesis.
Therefore, I simply posit that for the purposes of this entry, it would behoove us to aggressively test the case, poking holes in its potential vulnerability as tev did above. Beyond blaming editing, how else could they discredit what is plainly recorded: that CBJ did not attend Trig’s birth as previously claimed.
February 28, 2012 at 6:19 pm
lilly lily
Palin used every word possible, except that she actually birthed Trig.
But this is documented, she claimed to be in labor in Texas.
She put out photos of herself, the Gusty photo that had a reasonably looking pregnant bump. That is fraudulent.
Even if she says the doctor delivered Trig. Does she say it was out of her body? NO!!!!!
February 28, 2012 at 9:01 pm
malialitman
lilly lily,
You are right, she has never said that!